How China is Plundering the Natural Resources of Tibet

August 22, 2008 at 6:54 pm (Partha Gangopadhyay, Politics)

 

China is incurring huge expenditure in transferring and consolidating the Chinese population in Tibet. Massive investment has been made to build a network of modern highways all over Tibet. China can also boast of having laid the highest railway track in the world that connects Lhasa with Beijing. In fact, China often complains that its “civilizing” mission in Tibet is costing the government and people of China large amounts in terms of subsidies to an under-developed region. According to official Chinese statistics, the level of annual subsidies to the Tibetan Autonomous Region (TAR) in the late 1980s was around 1 billion yuan or $270 million. However, all the infrastructure that China has built in Tibet has not made the lives of the native Tibetans any better; it has only taken the exploitative apparatuses of the Chinese government deeper. 

 

China’s Ministry of Land and Resources has announced monumental new resource discoveries all across Tibet. The findings are the culmination of a secret 7-year, $44 million survey project, which began in 1999. More than 1,000 researchers were divided into 24 separate groups and fanned out across the Qinghai-Tibet plateau to geologically map the entire Tibetan region. Their findings have lead to a discovery of 16 major new deposits of copper, iron, lead, zinc and other minerals worth an estimated $128 billion. These discoveries add to Tibet’s proven deposits of 126 minerals, with a significant share of the world’s reserves in lithium, chromite, copper, borax, and iron. “Lack of resources has been a bottleneck for the economy,” Meng Xianlai, director of the China Geological Survey, had once complained in his statements. The discoveries in Tibet “will alleviate the mounting resources pressure China is facing.”  

 

Tibet is now said to hold as much as 40 million tons of copper — one third of China’s total, 40 million tons of lead and zinc, and more than a billion tons of high-grade iron. Among the Tibet discoveries is China’s first substantial rich-iron supply. A seam called Nyixung, is alone expected to contain as much as 500 million tons. That’s enough to reduce Chinese iron import by 20 per cent. The new copper reserves are no less substantial. A 250-mile seam of the metal has been found along Tibet’s environmentally sensitive Yarlung Tsangpo Gorge. One mine there, called Yulong, already described as the second-largest reserve in China, is now estimated to hold as much as 18 million tons, according to the government news site Xinhua and could soon become the largest copper mine in the country, helping to feed China’s increasing demand of the metal used for electrical wiring and power generation. China, which until now has imported much of its copper from Chile, is estimated to hold 5.6 per cent of the world’s copper and is its seventh largest producer. 

 

The riches that China expects to extract from Tibet in the near future, perhaps better explains the money that China annually spends on Tibet than the empty claims of modernizing Tibet. 

 

In fact, an official web site of China has itself disclosed that “Once-quiet, northern Tibet has become a scene of bustle and excitement since a number of inland enterprise marched into the region in response to the government call for speeding up the development of western China. Northern Tibet has more than 200 mining areas with 28 kinds of mineral ores, and is rich in oil and hot springs.”  

 

The China National Star Petroleum Corporation and the China National Oil and Gas Exploration and Development Corporation have recently dug up the first oil well in the Lunpola Basin, which has a proven oil reserve of three million tons. This reserve is in addition to the over one million tons of crude oil that Amdo’s oil fields produce per year. Further, the Chinese have opened two alluvial gold mines in Nagqu and built a gem processing plant in Lhasa. Soinam Dorje, an official of the Nagqu Prefecture, has welcomed inland and foreign investors to exploit the gold, oil and antimony resources on the plateau of northern Tibet. This also goes far to explain the need to invest in infrastructure all over Tibet. Apart from its rich mineral wealth, Tibet has many other resources that may provide China the edge in its race to emerge as the world’s richest economy. 

 

The volume of timber that China has taken away from Tibet itself far exceeds the amount that it has spent to build the infrastructural facilities in Tibet. In 1949, Tibet’s ancient forests covered 221,800 sq km. By 1985 they stood at 134,000 sq km — almost half. Most forests grow on steep, isolated slopes in the river valleys of Tibet’s low-lying south-eastern region. The principal types are tropical montane and subtropical montane coniferous forest, with spruce, fir, pine, larch, cypress, birch, and oak among the main species. The tree line varies from 3,800 mt in the region’s moist south to 4,300 mt in the semi-dry north. Tibet’s forests were primarily old growth, with trees over 200 years old predominating. The average stock density is 272 cubic mt/ha, but U-Tsang’s old growth areas reach 2,300 cubic mt/ha — the world’s highest stock density for conifers. Once pristine forests are reached, the most common method of cutting is clear felling, which has led to the denudation of vast hill sides. Timber extraction until 1985 totaled 2,442 million cubic mt, or 40 per cent of the 1949 forest stock, worth $54 billion. 

 

Deforestation is a major source of employment in Tibet: in the Kongpo area of the TAR alone, over 20,000 Chinese soldiers and Tibetan prisoners are involved in tree felling and transportation of timber. In 1949, Ngapa, in Amdo, had 2.20 million hectares of land under forest cover. Its timber reserve then stood at 340 million cubic mt. In the 1980s, it was reduced to 1.17 million hectares, with a timber reserve of only 180 million cubic mt. Similarly, during 30 years, till 1985 China exploited 6.44 million cubic mt of timber from Kanlho Tibetan Autonomous Prefecture. As new roads increasingly penetrate remote areas of Tibet, China is finding new excuses to increase the rate of deforestation in the region.  

 

China’s primary objective of constructing roads in Tibet is to deploy occupying forces like the People’s Liberation Army, along with defence materials, and immigration of Chinese, as well as to exploit the natural resources of Tibet, which are transported primarily to China. Roads may run through most Tibetan villages, but a public transport system is almost non-existent in the majority of rural Tibet. The Chinese modern means of transport do not benefit the majority of Tibetans. Tibetans in most places continue to use horses, mules, yaks, donkeys and sheep as modes of transportation. Thus, the Chinese claim of investing heavily in “civilizing” the Tibetans is one of the most shameless lies that one can perpetuate. 

 

The Tibetan plateau gives birth to some of the longest rivers of the world; The Machu (Huang Ho, or Yellow River), the Tsangpo (Brahmaputra), the Drichu (Yangtze), and the Senge Khabab (Indus).  Tibet also has over 2,000 natural lakes spread over a combined area of more than 35,000 sq km, some of which are sacred and play a special role in local culture. Steep slopes and the abundant water of these rivers and lakes make them extremely valuable as sources of hydroelectric power. Tibet has an exploitable hydropower potential of 250,000 megawatts, the highest of any country in the world and the TAR alone has a potential of 200,000 megawatts. China has built some large hydroelectricity projects all over Tibet. These projects are designed to tap Tibet’s hydro potential to provide power and other benefits to the Chinese population and industries both in Tibet and China.  

 

While the Tibetans are displaced from their homes and lands, tens of thousands of Chinese workers are brought up from China to construct and maintain these dams. Take the case of the Yamdrok Yutso hydropower project. The Chinese claim that this project will greatly benefit the Tibetans. The Tibetan people in general, particularly the late Panchen Lama and Ngapo Ngawang Jigme, opposed and effectively delayed its construction for several years. The Chinese, nevertheless, went ahead with the construction and with the help of more than 1,500-strong PLA troops are guarding the construction area and no civilians are allowed near it. But the environmental, human and cultural toll of these hydroelectricity projects will have to be borne by the Tibetans.  Tibet also possesses high solar energy potential per unit only after the Sahara, an estimated annual average of 200 kilocalorie/cm, as well as significant geothermal resources. Despite such abundant potential from small, environmentally-benign sources, the Chinese have built huge dams, such as Longyang Xia, and are continuing to do so, such as the hydropower station at Yamdrok Yutso. Tibet is made to play a pivotal role in fulfilling the huge demand for power in China at the cost of its own helpless, poor natives. 

 

Furthermore, Tibet has been made a hub of nuclear facilities. This reduces the radioactive risks that China could suffer if an accident takes place in such installations. Again, since such facilities are located in a colonized region, the Chinese authorities do not take the necessary precautions that are mandatory for such facilities. Official Chinese pronouncements have confirmed the existence in Tibet of the biggest uranium reserves in the world. Apart from Amdo, since 1976 uranium has been mined and processed in the Thewo and Zorge regions of Kham also. According to reports, the uranium mining and processing in Tibet is done with unforgivable callousness. The Ninth Academy, China’s Northwest Nuclear Weapons Research and Design Academy in Tibet’s north-eastern area of Amdo, is reported to have dumped an unknown quantity of radioactive waste on the Tibetan plateau, according to a report released by International Campaign for Tibet, a Washington, D.C.-based organization: 

                                                                                          

“Waste disposal methods were reported to be casual in the extreme. Initially, waste was put in shallow, unlined landfills… The nature and quantity of radioactive waste generated by the Ninth Academy is still unknown… During the 1960s and 1970s, nuclear waste from the facility was disposed of in a roughshod and haphazard manner. Nuclear waste from the academy would have taken a variety of forms — liquid slurry, as well as solid and gaseous waste. Liquid or solid waste would have been in adjacent land or water sites.” 

                                                                      

Given the fact that underground water supplies in Amdo have been diminishing at a rapid rate and usable underground water is very limited, the radioactive contamination of groundwater is of great concern in the region. Many local Tibetans have died after drinking contaminated water near a uranium mine in Ngapa, Amdo. They have also reported deformed birth of humans and animals.  

 

The existence of Chinese nuclear bases and nuclear weapon manufacturing centres in Tibet has been reported from time to time. China is reported to have stationed approximately 90 nuclear warheads in Tibet. The Northwest Nuclear Weapons Research and Design Academy or the Ninth Academy, a secret organization involved in China’s  nuclear programme which is also a high security military weapons plant, is based at Dhashu (Chinese: Haiyan) in the Haibei Tibetan Autonomous Prefecture. It was responsible for designing all of China’s nuclear bombs through the mid-70s. It served as a research centre for detonation development, radiochemistry and many other nuclear weapons related activities. It also assembled components of nuclear weapons. Several missile bases are located to the south of Lake Kokonor in Amdo, and Nagchukha. Another nuclear missile site in Tibet is located at Delingha, about 200 km south-east of Larger Tsaidam. It also houses DF-4s, and is the missile regimental headquarters for Amdo, containing four associated launch sites. It has been reported a number of times that China has carried out chemical defence manoeuvres in the high altitude zones of Tibet. There are also reports that China has been conducting nuclear tests in several areas of Tibet in order to determine radiation levels on the human population.  

 

Not only is its economy, China’s military might too is growing because of its colonization of Tibet.

 

China is exploiting far more from Tibet than what it is giving back. While China is proudly hosting the Olympics with its spectacular stadia and dazzling shows, the future of Tibet is turning gloomier. 

 

– Partha Gangopadhyay 

 

[Quote from Nuclear Tibet, Washington, DC, 1993, p.18 

 

15 Comments

  1. Eliakim said,

    Thank you.

    God said “China leave Tibet” this morning.

    May the will of God be done.

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  2. rOLAND sOH said,

    In view of what China is doing in Tibet, what can be done to help the Tibetans? Perhaps a Coalition of the Willing comprising India, US, Britian and France? By the way, is there oil in Tibet? If there is oil, it would be a huge incentive for more countries to jump into the wagon. I am thinking of Japan, Italy, Germany, etc.

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    • Emily su said,

      Britian foreign minister actually announced in 2008 that they recognise that China has legit direct rule in tibet. It’s on the Internet and demonstrates their official view.

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  3. Martha said,

    One could see this coming over 20 years ago, when the first peep of uranium was mentioned, and the allegory between when and what Europeans (my historical ancestors also) have done to the Native Americans and their land, and what China is doing to Tibetans and their land, it is following a parallel path to destruction eventually of all language, tradition, obviously “religion” or beliefs of Tibetan peoples, teaching them in Chinese spoken schools in Tibet, and on and on, all the same we did to the native peoples here, and then we did the same to the land, exploited the earth to its own devastation, for our benefit, just as China is doing this to Tibetan land and resources.

    Tibet never asked for China to come in and “civilize” them, China saw an opportunity over 60 years ago, and is politically speaking in terms of “helping the Tibetans” but in reality are not only exploiting the people and land, but taking all the benefits from their plunder.

    More foresighted people need to bang the drum, such as this author has done, and do so in all media, and in arenas of political persuasion, such as the UN. The UN had promised, and then backed out of protection of Tibet, yet has done some good, not enough to congratulate them for a real lasting impact, so where to turn from there? We have seen the political and economic realm of the richer nations cut back their aid to other countries due to their own problems, so I feel it will be up to US, yes, people, keeping this and all situations harming Tibetans and their wildlife, resources, language, beliefs,( ie: freedom of beliefs is a start), and stand sturdy and hard pressing the governing bodies everywhere to ACT, and not have continuous dialogue, (talk is cheap, and wasting time here) —- so I believe it is up to the people of the world to take on this monumental task of hitting China where it hurts. Money.

    This has been brought up before, so many times, but here’s a secret: it can be done. I moved across the US with all that would fit in my car, so obviously no furniture or electronics, and just my cat. In three years, slowly I saw and appreciated the items such as old, handmade antiques to furnish my house, and thrift stores, careful not to purchase “Made in China” at all. IT Can Be Done. So I don’t own a CD player, so what? I don’t own a TV, so what? Rather the TV I have is so old, it was before everything was made in China, and has no Chinese parts, but made primarily in the US, yes, and oldie. I took it apart out of curiosity and looked. There are so many electrical “things” I do without, simply not to encourage purchasing from China and funding their oblivion of Tibet. I know this idea is not new by any means, and people say electronics are made in China, which is true. BUT, at my ripe old age, do I really need them? NO. This laptop is guaranteed to not have any parts made in China, packaged in China, or even routed through on its way to me through China, and that is the only electronic piece I own, exception — a couple lamps, so old they were made in the US.. Easy enough to check, if you know what you are doing with a laptop, taking it apart, and checking each part is one way to prove it wasn’t made in China. Took a long time of searching, and basically built from scratch, before the China craze on electronics. OK, enough of that. With one caveat — how do I know where the MATERIALS used to make its parts are from, and not from Tibet? Basically by its age, the time it was made, and its made of plunder of Native American Indian soil. So no way am I an angel. We’ll get that straight in the beginning, now. BUT this is bigger than what I have just said. It is:

    China’s economy is about to implode, contrary to what many believe. Things are changing so fast in this arena that of course they are exploiting another country to gain financial gain for themselves, and not for the people, or the environment for that matter, but for themselves. How to stop this? If the countries, a coalition such as rOland sOH mentions do not stand together and demand a change, then China will, and may anyway, continue to exploit the minerals found on the Tibetan plains. So how many people have the will to stop buying what those minerals will provide?

    Marketing is as old as Moses, so to speak, and if collectively, the people of the world decided gold was worthless, it would be worthless. Anything is only worth what someone is willing to give it value. Usually it is the scarcity that in the end, determines what is of value, and value is such an intangible word. When people cannot eat, gold means nothing. The other factor in determining value is what that mineral, animal, plant, etc. will go toward in the making. If there is no demand for those things, the materials are worthless. Supply and Demand idea has been around in economics for ages, and is simplifying the issue, but is relevant today just as yesterday.

    Before this so called “civilization” there was no need for any. Are we considering it as going backwards, to voluntarily stop growth of economics and products? (How many have read “The Limits to Growth”?) I think we are in danger of that. Way before the civilizations of the Greeks, and Mayan, and other prominent civilizations in history books, the NEED did not exist. Its all selfish behavior to HAVE what another doesn’t. And I am not a bible thumper at all, but there are words there that have relevance here on this issue; the issue of ENVY, and all that entails to have the most up to date electronic, or otherwise, THING, that may be fun, but are they truly necessary to human life? Not at all. Especially when they cost human life. Blood Diamonds was a great movie that caused a movement. We need similar to that, Blood Uranium, Blood Copper, etc. to throw in the face of business what exactly they are doing when producing a marketable item.

    This is the biggie: Much of those minerals are for war, the making of all that is necessary for war. That is one hard subject to swallow and recognize, and then, one very hard subject to attack (to use military terms.) YES, I mean WAR, just think about the minerals used in the makings of war. They lay in Tibet, and doubtless China had thought of that. That is a bigger issue to tackle but needs to be recognized in order to understand the magnitude of the spoils the Chinese are taking from Tibet. Do I want to see those minerals so necessary for war in Chinese hands? Does anyone? When we understand the true impact of this, maybe the UN and other governing bodies (that is so vague…) may, and I mean may, sit up and listen.

    It all comes down to what we, as individuals, or nations, are willing to give up, or stand up for, for Tibetans, and for the environment, so the Chinese will not benefit from exploitation of either.

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    • Emily su said,

      You’re obviously not from tibet. Tibetans are currently taught tibetan and even today, are not yet taught mandarin.

      Uike Australian aborigines who can’t speak their language, tibetans can all speak tibetan thanks to schools that China paid for. Google it if you think I’m lying. At least I research.

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  4. Martha said,

    If others have comments, I would like to hear them.

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    • Roland Soh said,

      The whole ” Tibet problem” lies with the American and their covert operations againgst China. Just like China, America desire to have their hands on the rare metals every early perhaps in the early fifties. To this end they got the Dalai Lama on their payroll to spy and subvert the Chinese. Americans don’t care about the fact that the whole of Tibet is a serfdom with the monks as perpetual slave owners. They don’t care about the forced labour and brutal mutialiations of the populace. At no tme did they talk about human rghts, democracy and freedom. It was the Chinese who saw this evil and decided to put an end to crime agingst the Tibetan people. Needless to say, the whole of Tibet rejoice when they were freed by the Chinese. The Chinese was seen as a liberator and saviour by the Tibetan. Only the monastic caste was furious as they lost all their slaves and consequently suffrered a huge financial calamity. My questions is why did’nt the Americans freed the Tibetan slaves in the first place? The world look suspiciously at America when she tried to stake the high moral ground after rare metals was discovered and there is a huge shortfall in their inventory. America is now at the mercy of the Chinese who controls 90% of all the rare metals around the world.

      By using the Tibetans to subvert and hopefully implodeChina, the Americans have raise the alarm bells so loudly that it is heard all over China. Can anyone blame China for neutralizing this threat to her stability and securing her interest in Tibet. Rare metals do not figure in their startegic move to secure what China believes is part of their territory . The Chinese discovered this bonanza accidently long after they started to develop the country and build roads, highway, rail roads, etc.

      What can the Americans do now to gain control of this strategic metal? There are many avenues, legal and illegal, which the Americans can pursue. As with Iraq, they Ameicans could exploit the etnic difference between in Tibet and get them to riot and arson, just like the way they fuel sectarian violence in Iraq. Using India as a base they could raise a guerilla force to harass the Chinese. Finally, as I have said earlier, putting together a “Coalition of the Willing” and launch a military invasion.

      The last option is the most difficult as their is no oil bonanza in Tibet, thereby removing one prime motivation of any marauding imperiliast . Secondly, does America have the stomach to accept the huge casualties which will surely result from fighting the formidable PLA. Thirdly, does America have the financial resources to undertake another expensive military adventure?

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      • Martha said,

        I disagree. The “Whole of Tibet Problem” is not America. I will concede many of your comments though, I am not blind or blindsided biased. I would agree that the minerals are of interest to any country that could get their hands on them, however I doubt that the US is about to do that. If the US went in to Tibet and began imitating the Chinese actions, it would be so darn obvious and open to the world, that it will not happen. Of course that is not the only reason why not. I cannot say that the US is always altruistic either, but I can say that the US stands for Freedom of the Tibetan People, where I do not see that in the Chinese people. I have known of the serfdom situation of those years past and do not believe that China, ‘with a heart of gold’ (my quotation marks), went in to rectify and “save” the Tibetans from slavery or what have you as words to describe the time of serfdom. I highly doubt that any serious history will reflect rejoicing by Tibetans with regards to China and Chinese policies, one has only to look at the devastation of the people already and total lack of vocal freedom, spiritual and acts of religious freedom to see this. I should tell you, I DO know Tibetans personally, not through letters but personally, in TIBET, old Tibetans in Tibet, and am not so naive as you must think, so it is an act of silliness to “teach” me. I do not idealize either people, either the Tibetans or the Americans. Nor Chinese, and remember where i was during Tiananem Square, I was standing in my apartment, watching tennis, when we switched to see live, the brutality which is only an example of what the Chinese are capable on their own people. Frankly, getting into these debates is a waste of time, for reasons I will mention. I do though, hear the voices of the Tibetan people way back before the 50’s which you speak of, and understand that Tibet then is not the Tibet now, or even 30 years ago. But to say all Americans are oblivious to sectarianism, or to serfdom historically is categorically speaking, and a generalization, just as, and I reiterate, just as to say all Chinese are bad, devil worshiping creeps who only want to spoil the land. Not one country can be categorized by any particular aspect of action only, but on actions taken as a whole and by the Governments. Individuals are individuals. It is easy to see both American and Chinese people who parrot what is fed to them, yet to say— that is all that either are capable of understanding is wrong.

        I think it is beyond the scope of this person I am replying to, to see another side, and to say, yes, we are not perfect. Also, I see no reason to carry on a discussion with a one sided perspective when the “whole of the Tibet” situation, whether seen from Tibetan, American, or Chinese, or any other Nation, people, is ever going to be the same, and simply rhetoric reproduced whenever the situation is ripe. So in closing, I will not be responding to you, not because of any accusations you make or may make, but because I do have other things to do with my time, as you can see how long it took for me to bother to reply a short reply, but rather spend my time, which I hope, will be for the benefit of the Tibetans now, in today’s world. Without rhetoric, and with Freedom.

        You are absolutely correct in many aspects of your argument, and I’ll give you that, but will not say that the attacks you’ve made are altogether correct either.

        As far as the bull on oil,” marauding imperialists”, and “Coalition of the Willing”…..as well as “expensive military adventure”….I simply grin and bear such words. I cannot argue that the US military hasn’t been busy since WW2, but I am not about to argue your particular points for reasons of decorum, and peace on this forum. It would simply go on and on and on…..

        One option you have, is to try to see things from another point of view, and really think, before writing/speaking. Rhetoric seen before is only a reiteration of rhetoric seen before, not new information. I would have given you more credit, and you see I have done so anyway for the points you are correct in, had you not come out of your cave with both barrels blasting. Hilariously.

        While the Chinese are so called “developing this country”, Tibet, the Tibetans are silenced, jailed, and much worse, and I hope you do not have the party line to tow on those clearly seen matters. AND — it does matter.

        I will not be clicking on “Notify me…”, because I do not wish to carry on with a party line polly.

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      • Emily su said,

        They needed tibet because it’s a strategic foothold territory to invade or contain China militatily and assure American hegemony. The American rarely talk about 2914 of that tibet has serf slavery and depicted them as all happy and peaceful where in reality, the serfs worked hard and had their eyes gouged out as legal punishment for bad behaviour a d the slave owners can take the girl’s virginity making them u consensual prostitutes. They never talk about that. Smh

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  5. Martha said,

    Oh for God’s sake, I know who you are.

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    • Guru Lotas Lama said,

      That is all so true in life for the poor Tibetans

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  6. Martha said,

    “As far as the bull on oil,” marauding imperialists”, and “Coalition of the Willing”…..as well as “expensive military adventure”….I simply grin and bear such words. I cannot argue that the US military hasn’t been busy since WW2, but I am not about to argue your particular points for reasons of decorum, and peace on this forum. It would simply go on and on and on….. ”

    I’ve reconsidered much of what you have pointed out. I have to admit I was reacting to you rather than thinking thoroughly first. I do believe we are definitely a country of marauding imperialists, but not all people, individuals are. Not all American people. The government we’ve had since Jimmy Carter has been war bent as hell. And I contradict myself to say otherwise. We are so overreaching militarily, our spending on military is throwing us further in debt to China. And do we need five bases on Okinawa? So I get your points on those, I am affronted that generalizing America to all people who live here are marauders and imperialist minded. But it is true that the Conservative Party, or specific politicians especially during Bush’s reign, had the plans ready for a New World Order, so I have to concede those points.

    I think that a lot of Tibetans and Chinese alike think ALL Americans are swooning over visiting monks on parade (as one Tibetan monk termed it) when they visit, spread the word, here, safely in Free Speech, and that we as individuals are ignorant of the serfdom and hundreds of years ago, the situation in Tibet. That is not true. I do know a lot of supporters have no clue of this, but also there are many who care enough to learn history. Which is always reported by the victors, especially in totalitarian countries, where presenting history is a political weapon used with personal bias and benefit in mind and goal. But in a free speech country we have people who can challenge these histories falsely glossed over. So this is where I disagree that Americans do not care about serfdom……and all you mentioned, because that is a generalization that is true of some but not all.

    The United States can afford to go to war just about anywhere, simply because they put more money into military than making sure their own people eat, have jobs, and live healthy. But a caveat, the American government will never wage war on China, we are so in debt to China, it scares the hell out of me. And it should everyone. That only gives them more power. Their own country is failing while militarily growing, and seems almost parallel to the US in a way, but not the same trajectory.

    You mentioned the formidable PLA. I have only seen this trumpeted by one person, and I am fairly sure I know who you are. But just because we don’t agree on matters, doesn’t mean there has to be animosity or accusations, which I am guilty of also.

    I would absolutely love to see the Coalition of the Willing if we could get countries to care and to be brave enough to not worry about upsetting China. That is one war I would approve of — with reservations. I hate war, but I have seen the devastation wrought by the railway, and so called development and its impact on Tibetan people today and years ago. How is it to see your father’s arms cut off for speaking out for freedom? I have heard and learned of so many stories of treachery and devastation of people, jailing, killing, gone missing, and the other things I’ve mentioned before.

    Honestly, I have not a clue how to solve this situation. China is too powerful, no one wants to upset North Korea right now, and China has a big stake in stability. Upset North Korea and China will destabilize. Economically, the world has reached nearly the end of consumption, and I mentioned the book above, The Limits To Growth, the environment will only take so much all over the world before it backfires on all of us, leaving us without trees, vegetation, wildlife, water, these things and more are my concern also for the uranium for the taking. And for the plundering of all nations for short term gains for each to reach a higher level of living, but long term shortfall will be the end of the world as we know it. You mentioned oil. The US, I believe, is the biggest consumer of oil. And it was obvious there were not weapons of destruction, the ” reason” we went to Iraq, Iran, Pakistan, all over the place. I see exactly the idea of marauding imperialists you mention. I’m not, my friends aren’t, our government was or maybe still is.

    Its just that not all individuals agree with the government we had. And we are still at war, seems like humanity’s destiny is to always be at war with one another. Has been since mankind popped onto the planet. Historically, people overrun another people for land, oil, the next wars will be over water. So what does all this have to do with Tibet? If we consumed less, and restructured our economies, we might live to make a difference before Tibetan people are wiped out like the Native Americans are nearly, here. Today, I heard on American Indian Radio that they term our overrunning of this land as a holocaust of the Native peoples, well… it was and still is. They live impoverished, don’t be fooled by casinos, most casinos are owned by white men who give the money to the Natives to run them. Not all. And this is what is happening in Tibet, an uninvited government deciding what is best for Tibetans (not at all really, but moreso, what is best for China) and Tibetans turned into beggars as Chinese take the jobs. You know all I am saying, its no secret. I don’t even have to tell you. You definitely know, most likely more than me.

    I take exception to the thinking in general terms that the actions of a government extrapolated as being supported by the people, or as by all people. As well as believing all Americans are swooning idiots over monks without knowing about serfdom and other powers that were in place. Yes, you are right about those things, but not all people are ignorant.

    So in closing, I think you have good ideas, and good challenging questions for me. I cannot give answers to all of them, I don’t know and am willing to say so. I could take one at a time, consider it and write an answer for each, but I cannot answer all. It was the generalizations that got to me. That simply isn’t true.

    I hope and pray for the Freedom and well being of all Tibetan people, and all people of the world.

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  8. Ritwik Dasgupta said,

    The world must evolve an economy that is based on the recycling of resources (including metals) and on all forms of green energy. Such an approach could eventually save the natural resources of Tibet which are currently being exploited by an occupying power.

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  9. Emily su said,

    The did make the life better. They doubled the life expectancy, pumped in clean water and put in hospitals. Unlike before, they are not slaves that pay hig tax and have their masters gouge their eyes for disobeying and not doing hard work for low pay as serfs.

    Even the Dai lai lama has said that tibetans want to stay with China. Because has changed 50 pierce t for the better and actualy has the means to develop tibet.

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